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#61 absorb

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 06:11 AM

any info on Egeria the wise?



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#62 Smudger088

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:51 AM

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#63 bazzardeal

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 08:17 AM

so this event like MotD, spent CW for quest?

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:00 AM

so this event like MotD, spent CW for quest?

 

Really don't know, but I assume something like that. To play as a team, something more like the second part with raid bosses should be conceivable, as, if not, the brigade will be only to rack points without collaboration and be more, 30 individuals and the sum will win...


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 10:08 AM

Aye, there would have been few people making a profit from the last event unless they got 9vp. I'd say a 100hp+ loss was probably the case for most of the top 800 depending what SSR's you got from the 4th box (assuming people got into the 4th box) and ranking rewards.

 

Personally I didn't get 9vp as my team were paired with inactives and clowns for the first two days but getting 9vp would have made a big difference.

 

801-1000 place was an insane loss for all involved. Approx 50hp of ranking rewards for 500-800hp spend.

 


In my case, I got cleopatra. Woo hoo!

 

If I'd gotten to 9 VP, would have profited, but we lost by less than 100k after getting no good monsters for the last 15 minutes straight :(



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 10:34 AM

I pulled Sylvia from ssr pack and got lucky on pulling a third cetus, so I pretty much broke even on event. I like the brigade events overall, but they definatley need some tweaking.

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 11:27 AM

Yea they are fun but if it takes luck to come out ahead instead of dedication the game needs tweaking. The problem the devs can't solve so far is differentiating between dedication and cheating... Lol<br /><br />
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#68 summoner

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:19 PM

Dont forget there was stamina penalty in past event. Will be lol if it happens again

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:39 PM

Dont forget there was stamina penalty in past event. Will be lol if it happens again

it wasn't a penalty it was a cap. For instance a 230stm acct would advance cost 8 per jump where 1200 was 30. But the 1200 jumps faster and quicker. So it wasn't a penalty.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 05:11 AM

Well, there is no benefit for costing 30 per jump. Cost more but nothing.
Ppl assign points on stamina for quest, not for cap.
See if u agree applying same logic on HW, say changing to 6AP system is a crap/cap.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 05:54 AM

Well, there is no benefit for costing 30 per jump. Cost more but nothing.
Ppl assign points on stamina for quest, not for cap.
See if u agree applying same logic on HW, say changing to 6AP system is a crap/cap.

 erm u math is off, there is a 33% advantage for someone with 1.2k stam compare to 240 sta.

 

When you had 240 stam cost is 8 so u can move 30 ticks per cw spend.

 

I had 801stam and it costed me 22, so I got 36 ticks per cw spend.

 

So some1 get over 1200stam it will hit the 30 stam cap. so they will have 40 ticks per cw.

 

So there is still a signficant advantage for high stam account but there is deminishing return.



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:17 AM

 erm u math is off, there is a 33% advantage for someone with 1.2k stam compare to 240 sta.
 
When you had 240 stam cost is 8 so u can move 30 ticks per cw spend.
 
I had 801stam and it costed me 22, so I got 36 ticks per cw spend.
 
So some1 get over 1200stam it will hit the 30 stam cap. so they will have 40 ticks per cw.
 
So there is still a signficant advantage for high stam account but there is deminishing return.

thank you adding on ibhad just tried giving a rough estimate. I forgot the exact ticks. But I do know there isn't a penalty and tried explaining it best I could.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:22 AM

Side note tho..... u really can't just do pure stamina if attacking is involved to get bonus rewards. And a perfect account curreently I believe is 1242 attribute points. And u need a min of 100atk so a 1100stm is prob the best way to go

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 07:10 AM

Side note tho..... u really can't just do pure stamina if attacking is involved to get bonus rewards. And a perfect account curreently I believe is 1242 attribute points. And u need a min of 100atk so a 1100stm is prob the best way to go

there is 1249 attribute points available(they released a new quest awhile back), 1219 of which can be added to any stat. and 30 of which is split 10/10/10 for your atk,def,stamina. You need at least 15 stam to progress through all the quests. This assumes the level cap for attribute points per level does indeed stop giving points at level 220. in jrob there is quite a few more quests so you have something like 1300 points available, and they might not have a level cap as well.

 

120,180,240 stam seem to be the ideal, with just enough left over points to reach the DR start point of ATK or DEF at 1000, and a bit left over for def to cause 20% loss to opponents HWP.

(if you plan on putting points in both atk and def, go 240 stam quest untill you have enough from fellows, questing and leveling to put, 120 def, 120 atk, then remove fellows till ur stam is also at 120, and then re add fellows for the most efficient but time consuming way.)

 

309 points from questing, 250 from fellows, 660 from 220 levels.

 

EDIT: OCD is why I posted this, i dont fkin' know lol.



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 10:11 AM

 erm u math is off, there is a 33% advantage for someone with 1.2k stam compare to 240 sta.

 

When you had 240 stam cost is 8 so u can move 30 ticks per cw spend.

 

I had 801stam and it costed me 22, so I got 36 ticks per cw spend.

 

So some1 get over 1200stam it will hit the 30 stam cap. so they will have 40 ticks per cw.

 

So there is still a signficant advantage for high stam account but there is deminishing return.

 


What I mean is the lost from the penality for a single step. You can't gain more event points from 30 stamina than the guys who pay 8 stamina for a tick. Therefore, I say it is a penalty. Fun for someone yelling the lost after assign stamina from 240 to 241 during event.

And what your saying is the benefit for a 1200 stamina player over 240 stamina player. No conflict at all and you are right on your idea. High attribute points always get advantage than lower one. No offence.

 

But I suppose your ticks/step refers do not refer to a "move", right? "Move" refers to the step that you get one reward. Should be 3~5 steps for a move?

Lets assume 3 steps for a "move", there should be 10 rewards vs 12 rewards per CW for 560 stamina difference, right? Also 10 rewards vs 13.333 rewards if comparing with 1200 high stamina accounts, which is 960 difference...for 33% advantage

 

That's alright for spending your attribute points for 2, 3 extra rewards per CW while I prefer to spend my points on attack pwr, which is important in 80% events.

I do not talk anything about multiple accounts which violates ToS. And hey, it's a little bit off topic right now



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Posted 03 October 2013 - 12:43 PM


What I mean is the lost from the penality for a single step. You can't gain more event points from 30 stamina than the guys who pay 8 stamina for a tick. Therefore, I say it is a penalty. Fun for someone yelling the lost after assign stamina from 240 to 241 during event.

And what your saying is the benefit for a 1200 stamina player over 240 stamina player. No conflict at all and you are right on your idea. High attribute points always get advantage than lower one. No offence.

 

But I suppose your ticks/step refers do not refer to a "move", right? "Move" refers to the step that you get one reward. Should be 3~5 steps for a move?

Lets assume 3 steps for a "move", there should be 10 rewards vs 12 rewards per CW for 560 stamina difference, right? Also 10 rewards vs 13.333 rewards if comparing with 1200 high stamina accounts, which is 960 difference...for 33% advantage

 

That's alright for spending your attribute points for 2, 3 extra rewards per CW while I prefer to spend my points on attack pwr, which is important in 80% events.

I do not talk anything about multiple accounts which violates ToS. And hey, it's a little bit off topic right now

Yes agree this is correct. However remember in normal raid 100 attck just give 1.2 times dmg. so the advantage for high sta account seem alright. The thing I really like about cw event is the fact it really make ppl whom don't have a good deck competitive. That is why I stack cw and stamine i guess 



#77 Qzoo

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 02:30 PM

Yes agree this is correct. However remember in normal raid 100 attck just give 1.2 times dmg. so the advantage for high sta account seem alright. The thing I really like about cw event is the fact it really make ppl whom don't have a good deck competitive. That is why I stack cw i guess 

this is y I have a 300 stm 700 atk account and a 1100stm 157 atk account ... any way the dice will roll on event I think I'm pretty prepaired. Depending on how event is set up will determine which one I spend a few dollars on and go for top rank. The either will aim high. ; )

#78 Smudger088

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 02:34 PM

smart cookie i have 1 acct so i have 446 attack and 410 stamina



#79 Qzoo

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 02:36 PM

there is 1249 attribute points available(they released a new quest awhile back), 1219 of which can be added to any stat. and 30 of which is split 10/10/10 for your atk,def,stamina. You need at least 15 stam to progress through all the quests. This assumes the level cap for attribute points per level does indeed stop giving points at level 220. in jrob there is quite a few more quests so you have something like 1300 points available, and they might not have a level cap as well.
 
120,180,240 stam seem to be the ideal, with just enough left over points to reach the DR start point of ATK or DEF at 1000, and a bit left over for def to cause 20% loss to opponents HWP.
(if you plan on putting points in both atk and def, go 240 stam quest untill you have enough from fellows, questing and leveling to put, 120 def, 120 atk, then remove fellows till ur stam is also at 120, and then re add fellows for the most efficient but time consuming way.)
 
309 points from questing, 250 from fellows, 660 from 220 levels.
 
EDIT: OCD is why I posted this, i dont fkin' know lol.

as for the points please reconfirm the attribute points... I've built some perfect accounts and all add up to 1242 except 1 that I lost 1 point on which is now 1241.. unless u get a bonus @ lvl 220 my math shows 1242

#80 Trolley

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 08:27 PM

There are only 219 levels ap to be gained.

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